source that we potentially can use for the next 100 years. there are a lot of folks right now that are engaging in hydraulic fracking doing it safely. the problem is we haven't established clear guidelines for how to do it safely and informed the public so that neighbors know what's going on. you know, your family, you can make sure that any industry that's operating in your area, that they're being responsible. >> yeah. part of the fracking being so new, like you said, especially deep fracking being so new is there's a lot we don't know about it. it does burn cleaner than coal in power plants. that's pretty uncontested, but if you go look at the methane released by fracking and by transporting this stuff through pipeline there's a lot of methane released, and it's a powerful greenhouse gas in terms of co2. the balance of climate change between natural gas and coal is still somewhat a question mark. it looks based on most science we have now cleaner than coal, but we just don't know. we don't know a lot about the local impacts and how long these prices stay low or how long the

't see any extra taxes deducted from us, the few people that do will get back to the second page. i don't want to trivialize it. in terms of the overall economic impact you won't be able to find it in the data. >> but the imagery is terrible. not only around this country but the world, as to whether we can govern ourselves. we look like a third-world nation. >> because we're acting like one. let me back up, our major problem in this country is the recession, the lack of employment, 25 million people unemployed, underemployed, out of the workforce altogether. the reason we have a deficit and this is easy to show, the reason we have a big deficit is because the economy collapsed. we know that. that's not an arguable point instead, people are running around washington with a trillion-dollar deficit. >> but it's not a deaf -- to say this won't have an economic impact so i take issue with that. >> here's the distinction. two things here. one is the $500 billion number and the cbo analysis which says it will throw us back into a recession which, i think we all agree -- and the funny thing is

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